The Good Listening To Show: Stories of Distinction & Genius

153 Stella Taliadoros, Angelic Reiki Practitioner & Curator of the "I'm Lost Too!" Arts Movement: An Exploration of Psycho-Spiritual Healing, Helping Others Through Community & Getting Shit Done!

• Chris Grimes - Facilitator. Coach. Motivational Comedian

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Ladies n' Genminminmin (er, min...) please welcome the magical Stella Taliadoros to 'The Clearing'.  Stella was "Passed the Golden Baton" to be in the show by Ivor Novello Award Winning Musician & Composer, Renell Shaw.

Ever found yourself lost in the hustle of life and seeking a path that aligns your soul with the universe? Stella Taliadoros, an Angelic Reiki practitioner, illuminates our show with her journey of self-discovery and growth. We journey with her from therapy sessions to her mystical community space, "The Twelfth House", where Stella helps others navigate their spiritual paths. Stay tuned as she also reveals the charm of her favorite reflective spot, Caffercito Organico in California as her 'Clearing'.

Stella is also the Curator of the Artistic Movement called "I'm Lost Too!" acknowledging that "we're all lost and in search somehow," but remember: "All those who wander are not necessarily lost!" and Stella can help with that!

You can also Watch/Listen to Stella's episode on Vimeo here:
https://vimeo.com/840097820

Our discussion takes an intriguing turn as we delve into how Autumn seasons, food preferences, and social influences shape our lives. Stella sheds light on the significance of the mind-body connection with food, her experience with warm Greek Cypriot hospitality, and the community-building prowess of her café, Win Wood Art District. Don't miss out as she takes us on an exploration of her brand "I'm Lost To," her favorite quote, and the most impactful advice she's ever received.

Our enlightening conversation with Stella extends to the realm of psycho-spiritual healing, as we discuss her journey with Angelic Reiki and how it can be integrated with Counselling. 

We also explore the critical roles creativity and nature play in our lives. 

Stella's story invites us to reflect on our own narrative, emphasizing the power of storytelling in understanding oneself. 

Tune in next week for more stories of 'Distinction & Genius' from The Good Listening To Show 'Clearing'. If you would like to be my Guest too then you can find out HOW via the different 'series strands' at 'The Good Listening To Show' website.

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Chris Grimes:

Welcome to another episode of The Good Listening To Show your life and times with me, chris Grimes, the storytelling show that features the clearing, where all good questions come to get asked and all good stories come to be told, and where all my guests have two things in common they're all creative individuals and all with an interesting story to tell. There are some lovely storytelling metaphors a clearing, a tree, a juicy storytelling exercise called 5-4-3-2-1, some alchemy, some gold, a cheeky bit of Shakespeare and a cake. So it's all to play for. So, yes, welcome to The Good Listening To Show your life and times with me, chris Grimes, are you sitting comfortably here? Then we shall begin? Marvelous and tickety-boo. Welcome to the clearing of the show that helps you grow Marvelous. So this is The Good Listening To Show, and I'm absolutely thrilled and delighted to have here Stella Talia Doros That's the most exquisite Greek surname, talia Doros.

Chris Grimes:

You've been past the golden baton, stella, by the wonderful Ronelle Shaw, the Ivor Novello award-winning composer and musician, and he spoke very, very highly of you indeed, the punchline of which he said he respects your decisions to always do it rather than just talk about it, and indeed he credits you with helping him to start doing the business side of him being a musician. You're all about community. You're an amazing human being, he says, so you couldn't come highly recommended enough. So, stella Talia Doros, you're my first ever angelic Reiki practitioner as well. Woo-hoo, boom and woo-hoo. So yes, house Morale. What's your story of the day, please?

Stella Taliadoros:

Story of the day. So this morning I went to my personal therapy session. So I'm training to be a counselor, so that's basically where my life is kind of heading right now. But I still have to have my own therapy, which I do on Tuesdays. So I did that this morning. We kind of helped me to set my day on path. We never talked about certain things which I find really important. So, yeah, that was my story for today, had my coffee and I'm ready to go.

Chris Grimes:

Enough coffee in the system And you have your own. You're all about community and creating space where people feel heard and safe And is your curator of the 12th house. That's the name of the. Is that related to the 12 steps at all?

Stella Taliadoros:

No, So, basically, I so let me explain. I have a cafe which is called Winwood And then, opposite that cafe, I set up a community space years ago And recently, February I turned it into more of a wellbeing space and wellbeing, but also with a spiritual element. And the 12th house is actually linked to astrology, because in astrology you have houses And the 12th house is the house of, you know, in between life and death, the underworld, the mystical things. You know, the deep, the down, you know getting really into it. And I think it was just very fitting for the space that I wanted to create.

Chris Grimes:

It's very taro-esque as well, all the 12 houses and the sort of the visual metaphors of all and, as you say, it's to do with astrology too.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, it's just that kind of space where it's kind of like mystical, a bit unknown. You know discovery journeys, you know into the space of your psyche, slash your spiritual being out of this world. So yeah, it's all of that.

Chris Grimes:

What a great analogy for life itself the great unknown. I love that Wonderful. So you're extremely welcome. We're going to be curating you through the Good Listening To show There's going to be a clearing a tree. We're going to shake your tree to see which storytelling apples fall out. how do you like them apples? There'll be, a couple of random squirrels, a cheeky bit of Shakespeare and a cake. So it's absolutely all to play for. Just a slight googly question. first of all, if people don't have a frame of reference, i know I explained what you do and you've given me some wonderful sort of congruence on what you do do. If someone does just find you interesting and say, oh hello, what do you do? What's your favorite way of avoiding or answering that, stella?

Stella Taliadoros:

It's always a difficult one. So what I do? I help support people on their journey of life.

Chris Grimes:

That's what I do. I'm just letting that hang there with a very enigmatic silence. That was really well put and very succinct and clear, if I may say so. So let's get you on the open road then. And, by the way, i'm delighted that, stella sorry that Ronell recommended you. So here you are, welcome to the clearing. So, first of all, stella, what is a clearing like for you? Where do you go to get clatter-free, inspirational and able to think?

Stella Taliadoros:

So it's usually in the form of a cafe not my own cafe, which because you know, i can't be in that space So it's usually a cafe. and a particular one that's really helped me is a place called Caffercito Organico in Los Angeles, in Echo Park, which I used to visit like twice a year for 60 years. So it was like the place where I'd go when I needed to kind of run away from life and I would sit in that particular cafe and just kind of like digest life. So that particular place, but when I can't go there, it's just usually a cafe.

Chris Grimes:

And as it's in Echo Park, by the way, you'll see where I'm going here. This invites you to say it again, because it's an Echo. So what's the name of that exquisite cafe again?

Stella Taliadoros:

Caffercito Organico.

Chris Grimes:

Is there an echo in here? See what I've got there. It's.

Stella Taliadoros:

Caffercito Organico.

Chris Grimes:

It sounds absolutely beautiful, and when will you last there?

Stella Taliadoros:

So I was there just before COVID So I haven't been back since. but you know I do need to go. I'm kind of feeling that calling.

Chris Grimes:

Love that. So here we are, say it one more time, just so I can make sure I've got it right, because it's just exquisite.

Stella Taliadoros:

Caffercito.

Chris Grimes:

Caffercito.

Stella Taliadoros:

Organico Organico Organico Organico Organico. Caffercito Organico.

Chris Grimes:

I'm sorry I'm making you say it so much. There is definitely an echo in here. So we're there, then, and I'm going to arrive, if I may, with the tree now to shake your tree. It's a bit waiting for Godot-esque because of my sort of acting background. There's most of my back thing at ground, which doesn't make sense at all. So I'm going to shake your tree to see which storytelling apples fall out. And this is your answers. Now to the construct of the 54321. We've had five minutes in the intervening period since we agreed we were going to do this. So I have thought about four things that have shaped you, three things that inspire you, two things that never fail to grab your attention, and that will be where the squirrels comes in. You know what are the two squirrels of distraction that never fail to distract you, whatever else is going on. And then, finally, a quirky or unusual fact about you, stella teleodorus, that we couldn't know until you tell us. So over to you to interpret the shaking of the canopy of your tree as you wish.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, so the four things that shaped me, Yeah, when I was thinking about this, I'm quite like one of those people that goes on their lonesome journeys to kind of figure it all out. And one thing that has shaped me particularly in the last few years is my connection to nature. It was a biggie for me Once I started to kind of invite nature into my life by going into nature, by kind of understanding it. You know, I did a course in herbalism, like an online course, kind of understanding that we are very similar to plants in our makeup, in the seasons, the things that we need And that really, really shaped me. Yeah, that shaped who I was And I'm very much trying to live my life by the seasons and seeing the plants and how they grow as a metaphor for humans, you know. So, yeah, that's one of my things that shaped me.

Chris Grimes:

And what's your favourite season of those that we go through in a year?

Stella Taliadoros:

It's autumn, maybe because I'm an October baby, but autumn is a time for reflection and I'm all about reflecting, so it's very much my time and I feel very comfortable being in that season.

Chris Grimes:

A lot of people use New Year to reflect, to sort of look back, don't they? But I love the fact that it's pre the sort of hibernation period of the winter, but the autumn is a time of reflection, as the leaves begin to fall and the season changes.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, totally Yeah, yeah, go on sorry.

Chris Grimes:

It's the most dramatic of seasons, so I'm completely there with you, and my love of trees, by the way, is in form, why I'm shaking your tree, so I love that.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, totally Yeah, and like I was the like now I've tried to shift, you know, the whole New Year to like starting in spring, because January is not really the New Year, it's just there. We're still in hibernation mode. We shouldn't be expected to like come up with things. The spring for me is very much like all right. Now's the time to start thinking about what we're going to do, which we've already reflected from the autumn. You know we've rested in the winter, ready to go. So living seasonally was a big shift, yeah.

Chris Grimes:

That's a great first answer to the shapeage. So that's the first thing that shaped you the seasons, lovely.

Stella Taliadoros:

So another thing that shapes me is food, and I've only recently realized just how much it shapes me because I've become more conscious of my mind body connection And so when I eat certain foods I have certain moods And by kind of like understanding what I'm taking in, knowing what kind of food I want to take, you know, when I go shopping what am I drawn to? Because if I'm going to pick something with a certain energy that doesn't really resonate with me, i'm not going to feel good. So it would inevitably shape who I am in that day. So food is definitely a big one for me. Yeah, totally.

Chris Grimes:

Lovely. So that's the sort of nom nom, nom-ness of really appreciating it and choosing it carefully.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, choosing what I decide to put into my body, this vessel that carries me, you know, and taking care of myself. And obviously there's times when I don't and I'm just going off on one and then I realize oh, why am I not feeling so good? Oh, maybe it's because I've been eating one of these foods that aren't good for me, making me bloated, bringing me down low moods. So becoming more conscious of that, because it does have very big impacts on me.

Chris Grimes:

You're definitely living the path of being holistic because you're seasonally influenced, but also then you're being very respectful of your body, being the vehicle that carries you. So I completely get that, and you work in the world of therapy and counselling, so that makes complete sense that you're walking the talk, not just you know talking about it.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, and you know what, coming from a background of hospitality as well, and which I've been doing for many years, like I've had my cafe for nine years And then before that I worked in my uncle's cafe for seven years and my family's Greek Cypriot And a lot of it's to do like hospitality is through food. You know what we're giving and sharing with other people, and so I've always really kind of thought about hey, what do I want to share with others? What makes me feel good to share with other people? So I've always in my cafe, always had food that I like and that resonates well with me, because I don't want to be selling something that I mean. Obviously there's times I have to do things that other people may want, because it's not all about me, but I want to give people good, wholesome food, and that is a big element of hospitality, which is something that is in me, i think.

Chris Grimes:

It's the signature of the cafe, the win wood. Is it Greek Cypriot, then, in its fair?

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, like. So it's a family run business, so my sister parents are all involved, so we have elements of it. You know, like, some of the foods that we use are like Cypriot inspired, but also it's just the whole concept of the family and welcoming and the community. It goes back to our roots. You know Greek Cypriot people And the majority are always open doors was open, people coming in. It's all about, you know, hospitality, community, family And that's kind of what we communicate in our space. It's not just about selling a product, it's about this is a space and entity in itself And food is something that we, that we, that we share. Obviously, yes, we sell it, but it's all about the sharing, bringing together of people, sharing ideas, like let's, let's take care of you whilst you're here. You know a little piece of like taking care of, basically.

Chris Grimes:

And whereabouts it's the win wood, isn't it? And I got that right.

Stella Taliadoros:

So it's called win wood art district, which is in Walthamstone.

Chris Grimes:

I'll make a point of coming to visit it. It sounds absolutely exquisite, fantastic Third shape, which is third.

Stella Taliadoros:

One is people and friends around me. You know people that are your friends. You know there's sometimes that they will bring you down with their moods and whatnot, and vice versa, And so I think it's like important to know, like, for example, if you're going to have people around you and you're going to have some good conversations like, for example, Renaelle like me and Renaelle have the the most amazing conversations like it goes on for hours and hours and we can just just be like, oh, I'm going to be in a spot And I find that very, you know, like valuable to have, because those people help to shape you.

Chris Grimes:

If you describe you as being a great intellectual spar. By the way, that's one of the things he said about you.

Stella Taliadoros:

When I listen to what he said, you know it really touched me actually, because sometimes you're not really aware of how others perceive you. You're just being you, you're just being good people around you, because they do shape you like, like unconsciously, people are going to bring you down. if they're going to constantly bring in, be bringing energy, that's quite low, especially if you're on a high vibration. they're bringing a low vibration. if you're not ready for it, it's going to bring you down and it's going to shape you in that moment. So, yeah, people around you, especially friends, because you know you have almost like this boundary around who you are And if you let that in, then it's going to yeah, it's going to transform what lies within that boundary.

Chris Grimes:

And you're not talking about repelling those that have negative energy. You're talking about being present with them, but being aware to not let it penetrate, and therefore it's about keeping resilience intact.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, and like knowing how much of certain people that you can have, you know, having your life at a certain time, like maybe you can only handle like one hour with this particular person because you can feel your energy draining And if you let it happen for too long, then then you're going to leave that situation and you're not going to be feeling good And you might be irritated, you might be snapping with your partner, it might lead to an argument, you know. So it's like it's very important to understand that people around you do shape who you are, even if it's just a tiny, tiny bit.

Chris Grimes:

So, yeah, It's like the energy transference. I've loved that always, loved that analogy of whether human beings are radiators or drains. You know, we all know people that are complete radiators you can warm your hands up on, metaphorically, all literally deep midwinter for talking seasonally. And then those who can suck the very life force out of your being just by being in the same space as them, absolutely.

Stella Taliadoros:

And I know what it's like, those people that do suck the energy. They're not always aware of it. You know, sometimes when they come to someone that like radiates, they feel good. So it's like, okay, i'm going to come to that person because I know that I'm going to speak to them and I'm going to feel good when I leave. So they're not always conscious. Some people are conscious, but a lot of people aren't and they just gravitate towards you And it's up to you to put that boundary in place and kind of be like okay, i've had enough. You know, I've given all the energy that I can give, because otherwise you're going to start taking from my reserve energy and then I'm not going to have enough of it left.

Chris Grimes:

And somebody recently described the idea of being like an open series of USB ports that people just come and plug in to sort of recharge themselves, and of course you've got to keep your own boundaries intact. Wonderful, now the fourth shape, which I think we're on to, if I'm getting my structure right.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah. So the fourth one is environment. And you know, going back to like the plant analogy, you know if you get a plant, a plant in a pot, that becomes, you know, too small for it, for it is never going to be able to grow. So it's about knowing what environment I need to be in to be able to thrive and to be able to let me be who I need to be. Because if I'm keeping myself in environments that are not going to offer growth, then I'm going to stay put.

Stella Taliadoros:

And if I'm feeling, okay, I need to move, i need to transform, but I'm still staying in an environment that doesn't allow that, then it's not going to allow me to be the best version of who I am. And that can be quite difficult, actually, because you know that could be a living situation, you know that could be your home, or I need to change jobs, or I need to move room or whatever it is, and sometimes it's big decisions. It's not as simple as like, oh, i need to just change where I'm sitting. It's, you know, move house, and what does that look like? What can I afford? everything around that? So definitely environment.

Chris Grimes:

It's very relatable, by the way. I recently heard an analogy where someone is a sunflower, but every day they're put into a dark cupboard when they go to work. A person needs to change their environment Lovely stuff. So that's the four shaping. Now we're going to talk about three things that inspire you, Stella. So that's the second part now. So we're on to the three.

Stella Taliadoros:

So the first one is music. So I, whenever I listen to music, I get inspired to create. that could be drawing, It could be movement. I used to dance for many years and the way that I can connect my body to certain sounds is just like it helps to kind of release a lot of tension, but also you're kind of creating in that, in that moment. So, yeah, music definitely helps inspire my creativity in all different mediums, you know, because I think I think I'm quite creative using all different things depending on what I feel like I need to use to express myself.

Chris Grimes:

And was that your connection with Rinell? by the way, the music. Is that how you met?

Stella Taliadoros:

Do you know what? quite fun right. So I'll quickly tell the story. So Rinell came into my cafe and you know this was nine years ago, so I'm 35, so I'm 34 minus nine, whatever, that is 26, i think I was And I said to him, did you, did you play guitar? Because he just came to my head and he was like, yeah, i played bass. And then we realized that he was in a show that my friend invited me to when I was 16. And I remember him from that show when I was 16, him playing guitar, and then him coming into my cafe nine years later, or how many years later? that was 10 years later. I remembered him. So I guess it was kind of through music that we kind of connected, but he was a customer, so that was kind of like the next round.

Chris Grimes:

That's a lovely sort of subliminal sort of footprint in your memory bank. I love that.

Stella Taliadoros:

I remembered it.

Chris Grimes:

Yeah, lovely, So music being number one second inspiring.

Stella Taliadoros:

So the second inspiration thing is when people try to bring me down. It almost inspires me to kind of go the opposite way. And when I was thinking about this, one thought of memory came to mind. I was at school and I was probably like seven or six And I was asked to like give a talk about something I don't know.

Stella Taliadoros:

Get up in front of people and start talking. And the teacher said to me Oh, we've chosen you because we think that you're articulate. And I said to him what does articulate mean? And he said Oh well, maybe you're not the right choice for this. Then, and I remember that it really made me feel really like really bad, didn't make me feel good, and I remember like, since then I remember being like well, i'm going to show you that I can be articulate, because I remember looking it up and whatever. And it was just from like that that memory came to mind. And you know it's all about kind of like not letting things like that bring you down, but using it to inspire you to actually go and get it. So yeah, people bringing me down actually inspires me.

Chris Grimes:

That's very relatable to the lovely Maya Angelou quote about how I rise, or the poem how I rise. Also, it sounded that that was a sort of slightly cocked up, well intended teacher who then totally cocked up the second response because he it sounded like they started out with good intentions but then monumentally cocked it up and stamped on yourself. esteem at the time, but yeah, and I was.

Stella Taliadoros:

I'm tired. You know I was very young And I think you know those things do kind of like stick with you. Yes, even though I kind of got upset about it, i am that kind of person that doesn't necessarily dwell on it. I do rise up. Yes, i can do that.

Chris Grimes:

Lovely.

Stella Taliadoros:

And then the third one. I very much love deep philosophical chats. You know I can go well deep about.

Chris Grimes:

I love that I can go well deep, Well deep, Well deep Yes.

Stella Taliadoros:

And because from these conversations I always feel inspired, like something that like, obviously the other person has to be able to talk on that level, but I always leave inspired, like feel like I want to put something into action or something has come to mind that I didn't think about before, which makes me feel like, oh okay, i want to do this, i want to go in that direction or I want to create. You know. So, having, i think, you know, conversation for me is just very inspiring, but, like I said, it has to be with people that can meet me at that level And, and you know, sometimes it doesn't have to be at that level, but when I do get there, you know, it's particularly inspiring.

Chris Grimes:

And you've already credited Renae with being able to sort of get there with you, and it will go on for hours and then And sometimes I just think like, where does all this, where does it come from?

Stella Taliadoros:

with us, you know, we can just keep on going and going and going and we end up talking about everything, and even though we don't know about everything, we can have a viewpoint on certain things and we challenge each other. And I find that very that that inspiring, because, you know, at times it kind of goes back to the kind of not bringing me down. It's not bringing me down, but it's like making me think. You know, like there's been times with Renae where he will challenge me to the point where I'm just like go away. Like I literally tell him go away, renae. I can't deal with this right now Because he will say certain things, but it makes me reflect and then makes me take action based on that, because I'm like okay, that activated something with with inspired women, that activated something with inside of me, and what am I going to do about it?

Stella Taliadoros:

Am I just going to let it bring me down or am I going to be like, no, actually that did activate something inside of me? There's something there with what that person is saying and I need to act on it.

Chris Grimes:

So if you can surround yourself with conduits that encourage deeper thought, you know deeper into the well, then that's always a good thing.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, totally.

Chris Grimes:

Lovely. And then the third inspiring thing.

Stella Taliadoros:

That was my third, so I had music and deep philosophical chats.

Chris Grimes:

Cache number three, please. So that was me cocking up the structure there, and now, oh, this is exciting, we're on to squirrels now. So what are your two monsters of distraction? What are your dog squirrels, borrowed from the film up that particular reference where the dog goes but squirrels. So what are your monsters of distraction?

Stella Taliadoros:

So the first one is flowers. So I can be having a conversation or walking down the street and then I'm like, oh, that's a nice flower, i'm going to pick that because I've started making flower press, flower art. But even from before that flowers is just like. Like I said, ever since my connection with nature, i'm seeing flowers more. Before, let's say, rewind, three years ago, i didn't even know that trees made flowers. Like, honestly, that's how out of touch I was. But now it's like. So when this flowers, i'm like OK, my mind, i can be talking about anything, i'm going straight there. Or like an interesting plant that I've never seen before totally catches my eye, i'm walking straight over to it and I'm touching it. So definitely plants, and flowers is one of them.

Chris Grimes:

And I love the fact also you have a coffee shop says wake up, smell the coffee, wake up. Oh look the flowers. I love that too. Very sense evoking as well in both regards.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah. And so my second one is when I see people carrying themselves in a like confident way, in the way that they dress, i'm all I'm very much about. You know the way people dress and how they look. It's basically showing your soul on the outside. So when I see people carrying who they are in a confident way, like I'm going to wear this and I'm going to rock it, i can't help but just be like I want to look at this person and I want to stare at everything they're doing, from their shoes to their tattoo, to their earring, to all the details, like I'm very much drawn to that and I can't stop but look.

Chris Grimes:

That's a great squirrel right there.

Stella Taliadoros:

And now a quirky or unusual fact about you that we couldn't possibly know until you tell us Well, I mean, you might know a little bit because you can see these tattoos, but one of them was I have 24 tattoos which I think I have 24. Then, as you know, it's 25. I forgot one because I was going to say one of them is a is a paper aeroplane, which I forgot about because it's right there behind my neck.

Chris Grimes:

Okay, so there's what. Yes, i can see it now. And was that was that? was that tattoo number one, please? Was that the first one you had done?

Stella Taliadoros:

It wasn't. There was a period of time that like so the cafe is open very close to a tattoo shop and I became friends with them and I was going through this. You know, in reflection now, it was like I don't know crazy time in my life where I was getting tattoos all the time And I was like had a like stressful shift and I'm like I want to tattoo. So I remember just going to the tattoo shop and being like I want that. you know my friend was doodling and I just got the paper airplane, but I also like there's always stories behind it. you know how I was feeling at the time. But yeah, the paper airplane was just so random.

Chris Grimes:

And that's more of a random one rather than the story. You just like the icon and then you went for it.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, i mean yeah, it was like, basically, this particular person has created an art piece on the front of our shutters. It's like a whale and this like buildings and like in the distance like a town right, and in his sketchbook he added a paper airplane, but he didn't add it to the shutters. So I was looking through sketchbook and I saw the image and he didn't add the paper airplanes. I'm like I want that on me.

Chris Grimes:

Sort of artist installation, sort of that's inspired is the shutters are only ever complete if they're shut, and then you're standing there with the paper airplane.

Stella Taliadoros:

I had to complete it, so yeah.

Chris Grimes:

Lovely. So you've said very specifically 24, no 25. Is that the end of your tattoos or is that just the current count?

Stella Taliadoros:

And that is the current count. I don't know if I'll get more. Like a lot of it depends on, like my feeling And I think I've realized that over time and like why get them? and things like that. So it probably won't be the end. I think I'll probably get some more, but right now there's no plans.

Chris Grimes:

And, if I may ask, when was the last time you had one? just say we can work out. You know what?

Stella Taliadoros:

I think it was. I remember it was the official day of spring, whatever that was.

Chris Grimes:

Oh, so a couple of recently.

Stella Taliadoros:

Recently this like flowers here My friend does this, she kind of like, so I got it intertwined with whatever I already had And I don't usually have much color, so I got that one. I just felt like a bit of color and some flowers, you know, and just so happen to tie in with the first day of spring.

Chris Grimes:

But the tally is going to go up if you've just got one done about three, four weeks ago, so that's fantastic, wonderful. So we've shaken your tree, hurrah. Now we stay in the clearing, move away from the tree, and next we're going to talk about alchemy and gold. So when you're at purpose and in flow, stella, tell your Doris what are you absolutely happiest doing in what you're here to reveal to the world?

Stella Taliadoros:

So I'm happiest when I am creating, and that can be from painting to digital art to making cards. You know it's about just focusing, like I did a pottery for like a little while, like anything that has to do with bringing the inside out through creation, expression. Yeah, and that's when I'm the happiest. you know it can be any different level, but yeah, when I'm just creating.

Chris Grimes:

Wonderful, and does the 12th house give a sort of curation space for that type of activity as well? Or is it just a therapeutic centre? I'm not saying it's just an anything, i'm just asking.

Stella Taliadoros:

Do you know what Like? so yesterday I was using one of the rooms to just paint, So like I've started to use it for myself in that. And we also are going to be running loads of workshops. My friend, she's an artist and positive psychologist and she's going to run a few workshops with art and positive psychology. So yeah, there's definitely room for creation in my space.

Chris Grimes:

And is it a community owned space or is it your building and your family have it, so that's why you've turned it into your space.

Stella Taliadoros:

No, so this one, basically, i'm running this now. me and my sister used to run it together. Well, first of all it was me and a friend, and then it was me and my sister, and now I'm just doing it. So I say community space because it's for the community.

Chris Grimes:

Yes.

Stella Taliadoros:

My is a lot. I don't own it, i rent it. But then I then rent out the rooms to other people to do their thing, or I host workshops or I put on certain things and I do my Angelic Reiki and I have a little shop in there which I'm in a few of the days. I can have conversations with people when they come in. So, yeah, it's just my, my little space basically.

Chris Grimes:

Wonderful, and so that's Alchemy and Gold. next one to cake, which is where you get to put it. Here's a cake, please. So do you like cake? First of all, stella, obviously I'm assuming you might, because there's lots of Greek inspired cake that we all love. But do you like cake?

Stella Taliadoros:

I do like cake.

Chris Grimes:

Wonderful. So just while we're there literally talking about a cake, before I give you the metaphor what type of cake would you like, please?

Stella Taliadoros:

I would like something lemony and syrupy that may have some sort of icing on top with blueberries.

Chris Grimes:

Very specific. Go you, it shall be yours metaphorically. So you get to put a cherry on your cake now alongside your blueberries. And this is the final sort of rich, suffused storytelling metaphor, where it's stuff like what's a favorite inspirational quote that's always given you sucker and pulled you towards your future. So do you want to answer that first?

Stella Taliadoros:

Yes, so I heard this quote when I was studying counseling and I think the person that kind of created my course. he has this written on his door. even though I've never seen it, i've heard it a few times and it just really stuck with me. It's a Picasso quote, and it's. I think this is what it is learn the rules like a pro and break them like an artist.

Chris Grimes:

Oh, we like a cheeky bit of Picasso. Fantastic, just say it one more time It's beautiful.

Stella Taliadoros:

So learn the rules like a pro and break them like an artist.

Chris Grimes:

Get in Love that, thank you. What is the best piece of advice you've ever been given?

Stella Taliadoros:

So when I was traveling in 2012, i think it was there was a woman called Emily that was with us And I remember speaking to her about issues I was having with a friend of mine and she said to me everyone is on their own journey and they're going to go at their own pace. And that was a bit life changing for me. It actually helped me to see people in a different way And it kind of was just like the foundations of like how I work with people now, you know, like to see that everyone is on their own journey and it's theirs, and I can't, i shouldn't be able, i shouldn't get frustrated when other people are a different place to where I am, because that's where I'm kind of going.

Chris Grimes:

When I first spoke to her, so hearing that advice just kind of shifted everything for me- And, but you have also been described by Rinella as being very polymathic, so you are sounding like you're doing an awful lot of different stuff like a portfolio career.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, totally, because, obviously so. I I've run a cafe. I have a background in psychology and criminology. I studied visual anthropology because I wanted to be a documentary filmmaker, which I'm kind of getting back into now, and I want to use film and as a therapeutic way of expressing yourself, which I'm going to bring back as well. I'm studying counseling, but I also want to do a PhD in some kind of form of therapy, but I don't really know what that is yet. I'm also very much interested in philosophy, so there's just like a few different places I want to go and I'm also an artist and, you know, creator, and I've done some dancing, and so I think I'm not going to be satisfied just going down one path.

Stella Taliadoros:

There's different facets to who I am, and I need to integrate them, otherwise I feel like I'm not complete.

Chris Grimes:

And in researching you I found that wonderful. It's a whole bank of TV screens in what looks like a sort of almost like a civic dump type area, but and it's called, I'm lost to. Is that part of what informs your work?

Stella Taliadoros:

Yeah, so I'm lost to is a very interesting one because I was trying to figure out a name for what I do And I've kind of started brands, not started brands. All that, all these different things and the I'm lost to kind of speaks to the part of me that is an artist and also speaks to the part of me that is we're all on this journey. We're. We're all going to face a part of time that we're going to feel a bit lost And it's almost kind of like we're not alone. You know, we're all here, we're all lost.

Stella Taliadoros:

I'm lost to And I remember I created these badges that said I'm lost to and I used to sell them at my cafe and at 12 house and they sell, like people love buying them and I remember And I also use that as my brand for my art. So I've made cards and art pieces under the brand I'm lost to. So I'm still trying to figure out what to do with it, like I was initially going to if I set up like a therapeutic space but it speaks to like the therapeutic space where it's like encapsulates creativity or like spreading arts in that space. So that's the I'm lost to. I was still kind of figuring it out. Hence I'm lost to. You know, there's constantly going to be that, that theme running through, even when I do think I figured it out. You know there's always that. So I think the screens was a place called slab city. I think it's that place. Where was it? was it the screens or was it me filming?

Chris Grimes:

I can't, I can't remember the screen, so I think it's on the Instagram headline there's. There's a wonderful massive bank of screens that look like they, as you say it was. It's almost in the desert somewhere.

Stella Taliadoros:

Yes, so there's a place called slab city in California. So whenever I go to California I always visit that space and it's like a place in the desert where a lot of people like have like migrated to just kind of living in a flawless town and they have like an art installation that's run by people that live there, and that is part of it. part of it's like outdoor isolation of like anything goes is super cool, like if you're ever there in California, i would definitely recommend going to slab city.

Chris Grimes:

Great recommendation. I'm lost to makes me think of that expression we're all just winging it. Yeah, lost to and, by the way, having met you for the first time, that does sound very authentically a really good, unique, you know, differentiating offer that you should definitely keep plying. I'm lost to is a wonderful brand and the fact that the badges sell is proof of its own power.

Stella Taliadoros:

It's yeah, it's like, you know, being part of something and not feeling alone on the journey, because I think you know we're all going through this journey of life and we all need support and whatever that looks like, even if it's like we're in a badge, being like, yeah, i'm lost to, but I'm on this journey, yes, and that's what.

Chris Grimes:

Lovely, what's the best? Sorry, what notes, help or advice would you proffer to a younger version of yourself, stella?

Stella Taliadoros:

Don't stop dancing.

Chris Grimes:

Absolutely love that. Awesome. I just like an occasional pause to just go love that, and we're going to ramp up to a cheeky bit of Shakespeare very soon. But now, this is the past. the golden baton moment, please. So, having experienced this from within in having your own good listening to here on the Good Listening To Show stories of distinction are genius. Who in your network would you most like to pass the golden baton on to, please? do you think?

Stella Taliadoros:

So I would like to pass it on to my friend, katie Foddis, and she's someone that I first met many years ago through different circles And we reconnected, let's say three years ago, whilst I was interested in movement therapy And I remembered that she was interested in it too. So I remember like messaging her and she kind of reached back to me and we ended up starting counselling together. So we started our counselling journey, so we did. I think we did one year together, we did our second year together And we reconnected And she is someone that she's similar to me. She likes doing all sorts of things. She has a background in set design, like she's super creative. She is also very interested in get movement therapy She's just trained to be a movement therapist now But also all different types of like art and expressive art, therapy, embodiment, super cool person And she's someone that I can have conversations with And we used to send each other like half an hour voice messages and listen into the other one.

Stella Taliadoros:

It was like a back and forth And it was very cathartic to be able to do that with someone before I had my own therapist. It was like we were each other's therapists And she's someone that, even though she's not in my life all the time, she will always be there And I know that even, like you know, there was a time where I struggled with friendships and relationships and in general, and she stopped by me. Even during times when I was like, no, you know, don't get too close, she was like no, i'm going to be here still, and that's one thing that I respect about her She's very resilient and very strong person And I think she'll be a really interesting person to speak to.

Chris Grimes:

So, yeah, she's called Katie Foddis. Did you say F O D I S, I'm assuming?

Stella Taliadoros:

F O T I S. And I think it's sorry, she got married, so I think it's changed. So I think it's changed, but I can't remember what her full name is.

Chris Grimes:

So your mission, should you accept it. Good luck finding her And thank you very much. please Pass the gold button.

Chris Grimes:

Now inspired by Shakespeare and all the worlds of stage and all the men and women merely players. By the way, i'm holding up now my complete works of Shakespeare. This is a very authentic prop that is also in the theater show version of what we do. This is the actual book that I actually went to drama school with, so it's it's probably not read very much at all, but it's very well thumbed. Thank you. So inspired by all the worlds of stage and all the men and women merely players, jake, we, as you like it. how, when all is said and done, stella Talia Doras, would you most like to be a remember?

Stella Taliadoros:

I think that I would like to be remembered for contributing to some form of innovative therapeutic process. I don't know how that would look, what that would look like, but I'm very much you know, i've spoken about this with Renault actually like why do I want that? You know, why do I want to discover something new? And I think it's just like the excitement of I want to discover something new or I want to do different, a new piece of research that's never been done before and that that my name beyond that forever.

Chris Grimes:

And, if I may, just full circle. I'm lost to as a movement, because you're all about movement and energy and getting stuff done. There's that lovely adage as well the difference in life between what we want and what we get is what we do. It's the action towards which I think you're really extolling majestically.

Stella Taliadoros:

Thank you. Yeah, I'm a very much a doer. I can't like when I feel like my I'm not growing. I just don't feel good and I need to grow and I need to keep on transforming and, yeah, moving. I need to move in all different ways investing, changing environments, working towards things, learning things is constantly your constant transformation. Yeah, Lovely.

Chris Grimes:

So where can we find out more about you on the old hint of web? So where can we find out more about you?

Stella Taliadoros:

Where can you find more about me? That is the question, you know. So I've been thinking about this and I think I will eventually create my own website for me, because I'm someone that does a million things. But for now, if you want to find my space the 12th house that's what I'm kind of most active on, let's say, it's the 12th house, warthamstone, on Instagram, or on Instagram where I'm doing my actually right, sorry, on the side. Now I'm doing a hundred days of art and I'm doing that on the I'm Lost 2 Instagram page so you can look, so you can follow my journey on I'm Lost 2 on Instagram, and every day I'm posting a new piece of art. I'm currently on day 16, which is something that my friend is doing. I'm like I really need to do this because it's my journey, because you know art is an expression of your feelings during that day, so you can follow my actual journey on the I'm Lost 2 Instagram.

Chris Grimes:

This is a quick captain's log supplemental question which I forgot to ask you about. You're my first ever angelic rike practitioner. Could I just ask you about that? I'm an intelligent layperson in that regard. So what is angelic rakey? I?

Stella Taliadoros:

don't know if you've ever heard of rakey, but rakey is like a form of energy channeling, healing, let's say so. The angelic part and it's not, this isn't for everyone, some people are going to think this is very, very woo-woo is I'm a channel for the angelic realms. So when I'm doing this healing process, the angelic energy from outside comes through me and it heals my client on all different levels. And it can be emotionally ancestral you can hear your DNA. It can be physical and in that rakey experience, that person will just lay down and almost just enter a daydream, enter that space whilst the healing is going on. And, as I mentioned, i'm a channel, so the healing is not coming directly from from me. It's coming from the outside realms, places that the majority of us cannot see.

Chris Grimes:

That's what it is and how much of your therapeutic work is involving that, because you're training to be a counselor as well. You were saying yeah.

Stella Taliadoros:

So do you know what I've been thinking about this? because I have these two sides of me and, like, i have this very spiritual side of me, which is, you know, this angelic rakey was very much that opened me up to a lot of it, and actually counseling was the first thing that opened me up and I I see myself as like a psycho, spiritual practitioner. So I'll bring those two things together. I would love to bring those two things together possibly have, because in angelic rakey in those kind of sessions you speak to people for about 15 minutes before the actual rakey session happens and then afterwards you speak to people again.

Stella Taliadoros:

So, having my counseling skills, being able to hold that space for them on that level it very much goes hand in hand and that angelic rakey space, it almost helps the person in some cases enter a space where it's almost like it's meditative. They go on journeys, they may see things that are unconscious to themselves usually, so a lot of things will come out and to be able to then speak about it. You know parts of our shadow let's go yung. You know parts of our you know things, when they're in that state will come out and to be able to talk about it with that person on different levels. It very much goes hand in hand. So I would love to basically integrate it in the future and, yeah, create this whole kind of like angelic rakey psycho spiritual experience for my clients, if they so choose to do that and it's a bit like I'm lost to the finding.

Chris Grimes:

It's where you come and find yourself yeah, it's so true.

Stella Taliadoros:

I like that, i do like that I'm here all week.

Chris Grimes:

You're welcome. Lovely, as this has been your moment in the good, listening to show Stella stories of distinction and genius. Is there anything else you'd like to say?

Stella Taliadoros:

I would just like to put out to everyone you know, just get into nature and be creative, and everyone has creative element in them and I think a lot of the time we feel like we are not able to do that because of restraints that we have around creativity, but it's all about getting the inside out, and the inside out is another thing that Reneal kind of helped me with. It's about expression and expressing that through creativity, game-changer, and then also nature.

Chris Grimes:

So get into nature, goes to the park, start touching the plants, and that's what I want to say so, ladies and gentlemen, you've been listening to Stella tally-a-doris here on the good listening to show, tuning next week for more stories from the clearing, and also there's a brand new the good listening to show comm website as well. So, thank you very much indeed and good night. You've been listening to the good listening to show here on UK health radio with me, chris Grimes. Oh, it's my son. If you've enjoyed the show, then please do tune in next week to listen to more stories from the clearing. If you'd like to connect with me on LinkedIn, then please do so.

Chris Grimes:

There's also a dedicated Facebook group for the show too. You can contact me about the program or, if you'd be interested in experiencing some personal impact coaching with me. Carry my level up your impact program. That's chris at secondcurveuk on Twitter and Instagram. It's at that, chris Grimes. So until next time for me, chris Grimes, from UK health radio, and from Stan to your good health and goodbye. So, stella tally-a-doris, here you are in the good listening to show clearing. You've just been given a damn good listening. If I could ask for your immediate feedback, what was that like, being curated through this structure?

Stella Taliadoros:

I really enjoyed that structure. I think it's an amazing way to get people to think about themselves, think about those particular questions, things I haven't necessarily ever thought about. So having that structure was very exciting for me, and I love to talk about myself I really do because I feel like I do have a lot of stories that can, that can inspire others, and so I think doing it in that way was just brilliant and I love the idea of storytelling. So, yeah, i really really enjoyed this time of year.