"The Good Listening To" Podcast with me Chris Grimes! (aka a "GLT with me CG!")

A GLT with me CG - Ep28: Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue: Actress, Coach & "Queen of the Americas"!

December 20, 2020 Chris Grimes - Facilitator. Coach. Motivational Comedian
"The Good Listening To" Podcast with me Chris Grimes! (aka a "GLT with me CG!")
A GLT with me CG - Ep28: Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue: Actress, Coach & "Queen of the Americas"!
Chapters
0:00
Intro
0:20
Meeting Jennifer
4:36
The Clearing
8:02
Shaking the Tree
25:35
The Comedian's Anthem & How To Bomb/Die On Your Arse!
27:07
Dare to Suck: The Story of Aerosmith's Creative Process!
28:05
Alchemy and Gold
29:47
Cherry on the Cake
32:54
Outro
"The Good Listening To" Podcast with me Chris Grimes! (aka a "GLT with me CG!")
A GLT with me CG - Ep28: Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue: Actress, Coach & "Queen of the Americas"!
Dec 20, 2020
Chris Grimes - Facilitator. Coach. Motivational Comedian

Ladies n' Genmin welcome to another exciting episode of "The Good Listening To" Podcast with me Chris Grimes!

And absolutely delighted to be bringing to the  "The GLT Clearing" today, "Queen of the Americas", "Super Coach",  Actress and friend, Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue!

We both have Working Voices - the Global Communication Skills Training Company -  in common.

Jennifer is Head of Working Voices America! 

During her 12 years at Working Voices Jennifer has pioneered their women’s leadership courses, as well as developing and delivering global programs for some of the world’s largest institutions across the law,  financial services and fashion. 

As an Actress,  Jen is an Improviser - has done "Stand-Up" - and she is a regular performer in a long running Irish-Bar-based Theatre Show called "Our Bar" in New York.

As described by Time Out in New York:

"Our Bar" is an immersive, site-specific monthly show, where the audience is thrust into "10 all-new mini-plays that unfold all around them at an Irish bar. A new slate of mostly comic scenes is prepared for each edition".

Jen is also - I would say - "healthily obsessed" with HBO's Epic Series "Game of Thrones" - and in a parallel Universe she would definitely live at Targaryen's House (!) and have a clutch of pet Dragons to ride around on, as Queen Khaleesi!

However in THIS Universe, Jen is often to be seen "breathing fire" in the back of New York Taxis.  She definitely "has a thing" about not being 'taken for a ride' in that regard!  Wo-betide you if you happen to be driving in a New York Cab and you take a wrong turn with your meter running!

(Also instead of a having a pet Dragon, Jennifer actually has a very small dog called Hazelnut, who she very definitely coudn't ride around on!) 

Hurrah!

So - thanks for listening to another episode of a "GLT with me CG!"

The Podcast series that features "The Clearing":  Where all good questions come to be asked and all good stories come to be told!

With some lovely juicy storytelling metaphors to also enjoy along the way:

The Clearing itself - A Tree (where we get to "shake your tree to see which storytelling apples fall out, in the form of a lovely storytelling exercise called "5-4-3-2-1") - some Alchemy - some Gold - and finally a Cake with a Cherry on Top!

Think "Desert Island Discs" but in a Clearing! 

Also think about William Shakespeare - and about Jaques in "As You Like It" in particular:

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages..."

Jaques: Act II Scene VII

And as my Guest in the Podcast:  Now is your 'moment in the sunshine' to share your story!

Who are you? What's your story? And what 'life-lessons-learned-along-the-way' would you like to share with us? And just to get bit "existential on yo ass" too (!) what would you like your legacy to be?  How would you most like to be remembered?

And all my guests have at least 2 things in common: They are all Creative individuals  - and all with an interesting story to be told!

If you'd like to find out more, then please do check out my websites www.secondcurve.uk + www.instantwit.co.uk - and there's also a dedicated "Good Listening To" Facebook Group c/o the link above.

Plus if you'd be interested in the experience of being given "a damn good listening to" yourself, or you'd like to explore the idea of some Personal Impact Coaching from me CG - to help level-up your confidence, communication, and personal impact c/o my online Coaching proposition: The Second Curve "Zoom Room" - then, by all means, do get in touch:

[email protected]

Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

Ladies n' Genmin welcome to another exciting episode of "The Good Listening To" Podcast with me Chris Grimes!

And absolutely delighted to be bringing to the  "The GLT Clearing" today, "Queen of the Americas", "Super Coach",  Actress and friend, Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue!

We both have Working Voices - the Global Communication Skills Training Company -  in common.

Jennifer is Head of Working Voices America! 

During her 12 years at Working Voices Jennifer has pioneered their women’s leadership courses, as well as developing and delivering global programs for some of the world’s largest institutions across the law,  financial services and fashion. 

As an Actress,  Jen is an Improviser - has done "Stand-Up" - and she is a regular performer in a long running Irish-Bar-based Theatre Show called "Our Bar" in New York.

As described by Time Out in New York:

"Our Bar" is an immersive, site-specific monthly show, where the audience is thrust into "10 all-new mini-plays that unfold all around them at an Irish bar. A new slate of mostly comic scenes is prepared for each edition".

Jen is also - I would say - "healthily obsessed" with HBO's Epic Series "Game of Thrones" - and in a parallel Universe she would definitely live at Targaryen's House (!) and have a clutch of pet Dragons to ride around on, as Queen Khaleesi!

However in THIS Universe, Jen is often to be seen "breathing fire" in the back of New York Taxis.  She definitely "has a thing" about not being 'taken for a ride' in that regard!  Wo-betide you if you happen to be driving in a New York Cab and you take a wrong turn with your meter running!

(Also instead of a having a pet Dragon, Jennifer actually has a very small dog called Hazelnut, who she very definitely coudn't ride around on!) 

Hurrah!

So - thanks for listening to another episode of a "GLT with me CG!"

The Podcast series that features "The Clearing":  Where all good questions come to be asked and all good stories come to be told!

With some lovely juicy storytelling metaphors to also enjoy along the way:

The Clearing itself - A Tree (where we get to "shake your tree to see which storytelling apples fall out, in the form of a lovely storytelling exercise called "5-4-3-2-1") - some Alchemy - some Gold - and finally a Cake with a Cherry on Top!

Think "Desert Island Discs" but in a Clearing! 

Also think about William Shakespeare - and about Jaques in "As You Like It" in particular:

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages..."

Jaques: Act II Scene VII

And as my Guest in the Podcast:  Now is your 'moment in the sunshine' to share your story!

Who are you? What's your story? And what 'life-lessons-learned-along-the-way' would you like to share with us? And just to get bit "existential on yo ass" too (!) what would you like your legacy to be?  How would you most like to be remembered?

And all my guests have at least 2 things in common: They are all Creative individuals  - and all with an interesting story to be told!

If you'd like to find out more, then please do check out my websites www.secondcurve.uk + www.instantwit.co.uk - and there's also a dedicated "Good Listening To" Facebook Group c/o the link above.

Plus if you'd be interested in the experience of being given "a damn good listening to" yourself, or you'd like to explore the idea of some Personal Impact Coaching from me CG - to help level-up your confidence, communication, and personal impact c/o my online Coaching proposition: The Second Curve "Zoom Room" - then, by all means, do get in touch:

[email protected]

Ohhh yes indeed! And we're recording. And we have Royalty in The Clearing today because we have the "Queen of the Americas" Bom-bom-bom! Oh - I'll take a Queen, Grimsey! I'll take a Queen! Yes, Grimesey's welcoming - <br> And I like the fact you call me "Grimesy" - not everyone can, but you do. and I love it! Bless you for that! &nbsp;So "The Queen of the Americas" for Working Voices. One of the most successful, prolific trainers. Heads up America... But also I think of you as being a Queen - in that in another parallel universe, you could have been Khaleesi in "Game of Thrones". Because I know you're slightly - if I may - obsessive with "Game of Thrones" in a good way! I've seen lots of really good profile pictures of you on the very throne of the "Game of Thrones" with all the swords and everything through it. Absolutely super fan. Totally. And in fact, during the winter periods of the pandemic, winter has definitely come as they say, Winter has stayed. It's no longer coming. It's here. You know nothing. Jon Snow. You don't. This isn't about Game of Thrones. What am I talking about? So yes. Welcome to The Clearing. It's a real pleasure to talk to you. So you're an actress. Originally, we talked about Game of Thrones, but, you know, um, Acapella - no, it's a band called the Salt Cracker Crazies. You can tell us all about this. I'm just positioning you. And also you do something called OUR BAR or "Our Bar", as you would say, which is the equivalent of what I do. Comedy, improvisation here in the UK but you do it in a bar setting. And I came to see it once in New York as well. But anyway, you're extremely welcome. We share Working Voices in common, but we're gonna welcome you to The Clearing as I do with all my guests to shake your tree and to find out what your story is. Jennifer Ryan &nbsp; Peery Logue. I love this Chris Crimes. I'd like you to intro me for everything in my life. That was amazing. I'm strangely available until January, because that's when... It's like... Hey, I've got to do a Time Warner bill thing. Can you get on and intro me? This is amazing. Thank you for that fabulous intro. I appreciate that. I'm excited to be in The Clearing. &nbsp;Lovely so we can get straight on the open road of that. But first of all, What's your story of the moment? Would you say, how's morale? Well, you know, Chris Grimesey, and I'll try not to call you Grimesy endearingly throughout this entire thing. Right now, I think what's really powerful about what we do and what we teach is, you know, is we teach people about how to change your mindset, change your life, or we teach them that people can control their communication. And I'd say morale right now is, "Boy are we are really glad we have those tools." It's a practice right now. A very, it can be difficult to practice it these days, for sure. And I'd say morale is consistent, but definitely on that treadmill of practicing what we do. That's such a good way to put it, because we, too, are human. And as we both know, the pandemic has tilted the universe because it's tilted the universe. But our work, too, has its own version of going off a cliff, and we too need to have found out how to adapt, fall upwards, evolve, change, which we can all be really proud of as can all of our clients. But it's it's not been easy. No. No.&nbsp; And Chris, I know you're a lover of the "Yes and" and that powerful tool you and I live by. And I have to say it has been a mantra in my mind as well as when we're collaborating with our clients or our teammates that living in the "Yes, and." Has now become an essential skill. I would say so. And in fact, just a couple of days ago I read something very interesting about reframing, and we'll talk about the world of coaching. But you know, the mindset of when you're feeling a bit down on oneself The mindset of what's the point framing is just to say that's the point and then work out what that point is. "Yes, and" as opposed to "No, but" it's just a really seismic and tectonic just a flick of a switch A bit like "I am" versus "am I?" which, as you know, I talk about I am Spartacus. Quite a lot. But anyway, I'm Spartacus. Spartacus. I a Khaleesi. So there you go. I was just about to say exactly that same thing. So you stole my thunder beautifully there. So welcome to the clearing. And I love your name. By the way, Jennifer Ryan. Perry Logue. It takes a big woman to have a big name. You know what I'm saying? I know exactly where you're coming from. So what is it? Clearing? Metaphorically and literally. As you know, we're gonna take you through very storytelling metaphors here. A very rich journey of your story. So what does a clearing look like to you? I loved when you asked me this in my pre-work, and I really thought about it. And I thought I would share with you that when I was growing up, I would train and ride horses. And it was a beautiful, beautiful learning experience to be one with horses for those people who do ride. And because I grew up in Florida, I would often be riding by myself with my very dear horse called Mowgli . And Mowgli was, <br> a horse that wasn't all that into other horses or even people. He was a bit of a grouchy, and so it really was Mowgli and I often out in the middle of Florida, which is swamp land, which is beautiful at sunrise, actually, but there's a bit of danger to it because Florida's kind of the Australia of the world over here.&nbsp; And is the Everglades? You're right, very near the Everglades. I'd be out with Mowgli in the swamp land, which was very peaceful with my horse. But there's always been a danger looking around the corner, which for me I always like a challenge. So it's peaceful, but I know a challenge is around the corner. So that's my clearing. I love that. There's sort of some comfort risk panic in there. Nobody wants you to panic. We don't want Mowgli to panic, but it's just that edge, the edge of swampland. Absolutely. And I do think having an animal with me always. I'm a huge animal lover. I think they teach us a lot about ourselves, so my clearing always involves an animal as well. I love that. And you're in a two bedroom apartment in New York at the momentoment n at the maren't you? Yes.<br> You don't have an updated upgrade of Mowgli in your flat? No, <br> So that's my metaphorical clearing, my literal one is with my sweet little shitzu Hazel. We walk the East River with the sun shining and the bridges and it's all very rural. But also that would be my literal clearing is walking my sweet little dog.&nbsp; But I love the comedy. We must show a picture to the listeners and viewers of Hazel. And in fact Mowgli would've shit the bed because she's quite small. So true. Somebody said to me it was like as I grew up, "Girl got bigger, animals got smaller." I love that. Also if I may with The Jungle book theme, and this is a real compliment&nbsp; to your lovely man Gene. He could be the Baloo in the universe of jungle book. And often he would agree with how we're feeling in quarantine lately in the pandemic, potentially with how we how, we've been feeling for sure, And indeed, going with the Baloo thing I know is quite good at hugging so. Well done. You've landed in a safe pair of arms there, and in fact, I myself have been hugged by Gene and you sort of remember when you have been. Yes. He makes an impact with a lot of caring. Just to be clear, AGGRESSIVE CARING! Just to be clear, he'd probably no doubt&nbsp; hug you in a slightly different way than he would me just to be clear about that. Oh, you know I'd allow it. It's fine.<br> Awkward Okay, now we're moving. So we're in the clearing and we're near the Everglades. I'm hearing and um so if I'm a, I'm going to join you in your metaphorical clearing. So if you don't mind. More importantly, does Mowgli mind because he doesn't like people. If I'm stood there with a tree and in the metaphor, could be the equivalent of an apple tree or even the Joshua tree. I spoke to someone a couple of days ago. Who's clearing was in the desert for the first time. So that was Joshua Tree. But anyway, here we are. There's a tree and in the Everglades&nbsp; there are very particular types of tree. So we're gonna shake your tree to see which apples fall out in your clearing. And as we know, they take the form off a exercise which we love called 54321 where you've had five minutes to think about four things that shape you or have shaped you. Jennifer Ryan, Peery. Logue, and then. Three things that inspire you. Two things that never fail to grab your attention. Huh! And then one quirky or unusual fact about you we couldn't possibly know or I couldn't even know until you tell us. So it's your apple tree to shake. You can pick up and chomp on whichever apple you'd like to first. So over to you, I thought about this one long and hard as well, too, because I have. I'll be using a lot of food metaphors as well as animal metaphors, but I have a lot that makes up the recipe. I suppose that shapes me. But I'd say one of the the biggest ones is that I come from a family of deep entrepreneurs and very successful people. And so, at a very young age, I saw pretty professional people, particularly women, make a real dent in the universe, one of them being my Aunt Anna, my great aunt, she had one of the very few women-owned businesses in a very rural town here in Florida. She was kind of like an agent for court reporters over here, and at the time she owned her business, it was a bit controversial. There wasn't even -&nbsp; and I think this is fascinating - At the time over here, women couldn't even have a mortgage without a male co-signer or a times a credit card. And here is my Aunt Anna owning this business and being deeply professional. And I would sit in her office with her on my chair and remember spinning around. And I would "play businesswoman" because that was what my Aunt Anna was. I would have some of her headphones on and think I was - very cool.<br> I love how you say Aunt Anna by the way. Yes my Aunt Anna My Nana. She's uh, I come from the - I'm in the Florida - central part&nbsp; but it's very Southern Ladies Aunt Anna<br> Anna, Anna, We got some Flo's. Course you got some Flo's I know that! Got some Flo's some Flossie's. So, yeah, I grew up with her. And then, of course, my mother was a really brilliant entrepreneur, owned her own business. She was a very exceptional interior designer, but also taught me the power of family and how to try to balance all of that, which is difficult. So that's the second big inspiration for me. And what shaped me to eventually come where I am today. And then third I know I've talked to you about this, Chris, but my papa, my grandfather, had a tremendous impact on my life. He was such a talented attorney and would often take me to watch criminal law cases. And he actually started me at six, watching these very intense Law &amp; Order type situations for those of you into that show, and I got to see a lot about life, and I remember asking him, "What do all these situations that I see playing out that are so challenging and intense" - Particularly he represented women, and I said, "What does this mean about the world? I'm a bit scared of it, to be honest." And he said, Even at that young age, he said, "Jennifer, I don't want you to be scared. What I want you to be is really curious about what you're good at and what you have a passion for, and just promise me once you figure it out, it will always be in service of others. Make sure it's always to help people." So I had some tremendous family members, and that's to name a few. To be perfectly honest with you, Chris. <br> that have shaped who I am today and the business woman I am today. And if I may, he sounds like a beautiful early exponents of what we now think of as being servant leadership. For whom and for what <br> am I in service? And also I love the through line and the thread there, &nbsp;powerful powerful women leader role models for you because you are a powerful entity as a woman leader within a room. I know that cause I've seen you facilitate, and I've seen you work. And I've seen you, coach. And so I'm not just blowing smoke at you in that regard. I think there's a lovely chime and following forward what you took from your background. Is Auntie Annie still around? If I may ask, you know, this has been an interesting time for I don't know if you've ever felt like this, Chris, where you look around and you go. Oh, damn. I'm the adult in the room. <br> A lot of these very powerful people in my life have recently passed away. My Aunt Anna passed away recently. My grandfather passed away in the last five years, and it's been interesting for me to look around and go. Oh, I I'm supposed to know - I'm that person now to my niece or my nephew, I'm sure you are - &nbsp;that's been interesting. There's a very interesting, you know, seismic thing about succession planning in there. I think the mantle you know is yours. That throne. You know, I've talked about you being on the Game of Thrones. And if you think about the life parallel, this is a Game of Thrones. And yes, your time on the throne is now Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue. Thank you, Chris. I'll take it. I I fought really hard for it, and I, uh, might not have a dragon, but I have a little dog. Don't try writing, Hazel. It's not gonna end well. Yes. No, no, but it's still the same spirit. But thank you for saying that again. I wish I could take you everywhere with the amazing compliments. And I appreciate it. It's, it's a hard road sometimes for women in business. And we definitely have to fight to get here. And I'm so glad I had people that mentored me and helped me get here. And women's leadership as we'll talk about is what you particularly bring in alchemy and gold to the Working Voices domain. <br> We'll come onto that. So anything else you want to say about what's shaped you? Um, I would just say that having a community because I grew up with family being so important, I think I've always sought community and back to the food reference. I think what's interesting. A lot of people ask me this. Even when I coached them, they feel like they're supposed to specialize in something and be great at one thing. And I said "No, There's a lot of a recipe that makes an amazing cake at the end of the day" And when I first started out, I didn't know I was going to be director of the Americas and run a global team and and be the Account Relationship Manager for Working Voices. I actually started out as you know, as an actor, and I came to New York, and part of me being able to make a living was oddly running nightclubs and Irish pubs for some amazing Irishman here in New York City, and there's a really big Irish community here in New York U2 wrote a song about New York, and one of the lyrics is "The Irish have been coming here for years and it feels like they own the place." So shout out to the lads for helping this very young gal. 20 years ago, they taught me so much about hard core business about how to survive in a really big market. How have difficult conversations at 2 a.m. with customers, but they're still your customers the next day. They taught me to stand up for myself. They taught me how to hustle. And I'm very grateful that I have this interesting soup of creativity being a stand up comic and improv-er and an actor. But I learned business at the knee of some pretty amazing lads who taught me a lot. And OUR BAR or "Our Bar" as you would say, presumably that has a sort of - that felt Irish to me when I came to see it. Yeah, Oh, yeah, that was actually So our bar is a lot of us. Talk about, you know, the famous show over here Saturday Night Live we call it. If SNL had a baby and raised it on whiskey and fun, it would be OUR BAR because it is set in a bar. I played Jen The Bartender and now have played her for 11 years, and we do these small little scenes, or about 2 to 3 minutes, and it encompasses what could happen in a bar in a night. And we have amazing talent pool of writers and amazing talent pool of actors. And we all get together and create magic once every month to do this amazing event. And I was just so lucky because at the time I was running a bar. So that was our theater. Thank you. And also you just chimed a word in my head that you didn't say that. It's made me think off, and it's a word I've not thought of. For one. It's called Vignette, so thank you very much. You do lots of vignettes in the bar about life in OUR BAR There's metaphors for life in the bar. I know, too. That's right. Gorgeous stuff. Love that. So can we now think about the next level down, which is three things that inspire you? I know you're it doesn't matter if they intersect slightly or giving me lots of that, but what's inspirational to you. I think what's inspirational to me, and I know this may sound common sense, but not common practice. Empathy and kindness have gone out of style for some reason, and what inspires me is when Chris, I'll be in the grocery store with the mask on being the grocery store and I'll see someone try to reach a can that someone's trying desperately to try to get on the top shelf. And I get a little choked up by little things like that, because I thought, Oh, I'm not seeing that as much anymore. Or people who generally like yourself at the top of our lovely time together, thinking about how to show gratitude or thanking someone or telling them that they inspire them. And so one of the things that's really inspiring me is when people are willing to be vulnerable and show empathy and kindness. It's a bit radical in these times - I also just love the beauty off the reach, high to pass it back down the ladder, eso reaching up to pass it back, even though that's a moment of vignette in a supermarket, if you will. But it represents so much profoundness about how we've got to help each other up and down the ladders of life. In a way. Absolutely. I'm hearing that a lot in my sessions or right now, because again, a part of my job is being one of the main account relationship managers. Sometimes we are the people that they're reaching out to, to have a little bit of a life raft right now, somebody to listen too because they might be struggling. And so absolutely, it's these moments in the grocery store, and I love how that might play out for all of us in a in a business context, it inspires me very much. Lovely. Anything else that inspires you is we're just shaking the tree for those out. I've got a ton of stuff, but I'd say the only final thing I'll say an inspiration is. I think humor is so crucial, and I know you're going to be right on that thought with me making people laugh. And I do know sometimes of a bit edgy and controversial about. There are certain humor moments, especially in a business setting. Or sometimes they go, "My my say! <br> Pearl-clutching moment. But having the ability to laugh at yourself with others, not at others, but having the ability to laugh and finding the humor is so inspiring as well. And again, a bit radical. In these times. And out of darkness comes laughter. And my favorite quote of the summer was this following quote, which is, "We have to laugh because laughter, as we already know, is the first evidence of freedom." Ah, yeah, Boom. Writing that down. It came from a dark place, even though it's a very brilliant bit of gold. It was. I was reading a trilogy about the Cartel by Dan Wilmslow, a really brilliant trilogy. But out of that came this nugget. I've since used it as as sort of an epicenter of my main cut and thrust at the moment. And so absolutely, I'm there with you, thinking humor is absolutely essential at the edge of reason at the moment, to then pull us forward. I love that I also like that, you said. It comes out of darkness. I would say a lot of my - I completely agree with that. I remember a lot of my stand up routine was usually out of some very dark things that happened to me that I felt like I needed the laugh at. And so I do think that's interesting where the darkness is. Well, even in Genesis is we know of slapstick is to laugh at somebody else's misfortune. They fall over and you can laugh. So humor is there's a victim in here. We can talk about that another time. But there is. There's always a victim in humor and so that's why people take offense as we know. So anyway, way both know that I'm just riffing on the theme with you. They're beautiful. I love it. Okay, so two things that never fail don't to grab your attention. Uh, what never fails to grab my attention? I would say what never fails to grab my attention is that when we are able to and I know again all this stuff, I'm going to say a lot of people probably go. That's so simple, Jen. But here's what never fails to grab my attention. When we are present and in the moment and truly listening, it all works out. That that's right. That's simple and profound, but not simplistic. I love that. Well that's right, because there's this simple thing about what do you mean? All I have to do is listening now and be present. And maybe I'd even throw in empathy. But as you know, Grimesey, but doing that in the moment and practicing that and with everything that goes on with an individual, whether that's personal or professional listening, having empathy and being in the moment can sometimes feel like scaling Everest. For some people. Yes and being present in the moment is when those beautiful moments in theater reached a sort of epiphany point where everyone's just blissed out with the same common experience and vocabulary of now, Yes. I love that.<br> That definitely grabs my attention and I think the other thing that always grabs my attention is my obsession with wonder Woman. I love her. You can see her is behind me here for those of you who might be listening. But she's behind me in my a picture. It's a very particularly special looking picture of Wonder Woman who's penned that or painted that particular one? It's almost come on, the fact fun fact that is a cross stitch. And I did it. Oh, hello. It looks almost Chinese or Japanese, and it's calligraphy. Doesn't it? Doesn't it? &nbsp; It does. So of course, anyone listening. This is a really crap moment for you, but it looks beautiful. And in fact, we please send us a photograph of that and I'll attach it to the show. I shall, I shall. I'm a huge superhero fan, and I've loved - And for a while there it was kind of geeky, to like superheroes, and it was part of nerd culture. And then off a sudden nerd culture has become really cool, which thank God, because here I am. I think having superheroes either personally in our lives, because I have so many. I talked about my grandfather. He was a bit of a modern day superhero to me, but I love that we have these representative characters now like a Wonder Woman for people who need it. And that represents something. And I've noticed that particularly since the movies have come out, I see globally how people have accepted Wonder Woman is this very cool representative type of icon for for women like like us. So it's very cool. So what never grabs, never feels to grab my attention is our love for arts. But particularly superheroes. And also I love the parallel in there about how having a majorly inspirational superhero is like having a demon or a deamon, as it's called on. Obviously, mine is Stan Laurel is, you know, and it's a daemon to remind me always as the Wonder Woman gives you power to keep it kind, funny, humble and engaging. I could not have said that better. I love it like the Golden Compass. Exactly. She's kind of behind me, helping me again nerd culture. But she's behind me, helping me continue to live the values that I believe in so much, I think, helping you to play it forward as you always do. I love that we'll see you on your love of the now. There was a really powerful meme of the clock of now, which is out there on the interweb, which is just a clock that goes now now, now, exactly now, because all we have is now it's true, and I think I fell in love with that, the way we have by improv-ing by being able to make people laugh. And it usually, the biggest laugh I could get from people was when I was in that pocket, I was in the zone of being with listening to my scene partner, being able to find that funny and out it would come without me even having to think about it. It was the instincts and that definitely definitely gets my attention. Yes, and awesome or awesome, as I need to say, an American speak dialectically. So now we're gonna talk about what what is a quirky or unusual fact about you that we couldn't possibly know until you tell us? Well and it may not be so unknown now that we've been chatting. But I did used to be a professional stand up. I did it for a long time and I did it at a time that it wasn't probably is en vogue for women to do stand up. It was me and a bunch of dudes mainly.<br> Uh, it usually was. My sets were usually at 1 a.m. and I would have to really hold an audiences attention when they were not just like, yeah, this would be cool if this chick could make us laugh. No, they were like, you better make us laugh. And so I learned to - Probably my whole business model was based off of how I felt one in the morning trying to get people to laugh and have a little bit of fun, so I probably learned the most there. But people may not realize. Have you heard about that wonderful construct, which is called the Comedians Anthem? Which is where you haven't truly made it as a comedian or comedienne until you've walked off stage to what's called the Comedians Anthem, which is the sound of your own footsteps. It's so true. I know it isn't that cool, though I think that's another thing we learned is that when you bomb and in that moment of feeling so alone, however, you learn so much from bombing from making those mistakes. And I I over time I actually really, really enjoy moments of utter tumbleweed. If you deliver a joke and then it's just like whooooooo It's so true.<br> But isn't it brilliant that out of adversity comes creativity? We need the highs, the lows, the lows from the highs you need to die on your ass to know what it's like to be awesome in front of an audience. I think that gives you so much confidence as well that it's like, Oh, that was bad but, hey <br> I came out of it and and this is where I can go with that&nbsp; <br> And I also think there's I really like and I always like this creatively and it's what I like in business. I like that community and the camaraderie. I like being with other people, even if it's the audience. And there is something lovely about when it's tumbleweed-y. You know you've bombed the audience knows you've bombed. Everybody knows. Everybody knows, and I love when you can comment on like, Well, that was a load of crap that just happened, and everybody was like hahahah she knew it. And then there's this moment of again being present and empathy and everybody gets it, and we can all laugh at each other. By the way did you hear in in Nick Fordham, who we also have the great joy of working with at Working Voices. You must listen to his interview as well, because he talks about a brilliant thing called - it's linked to Dare to Suck. It's where the band Aerosmith would get together, all set to completely fall about with hysterical laughter. What a complete turnip of an idea I've just had. But they would fall in love with the creative process because they insisted, they loved how crap&nbsp; abominable the ideas were. But the clincher is one in every 10 ideas was absolutely gold. And love in an elevator is one of those debt to suck moments where I had this really weird idea in the shower where someone's in an elevator and they had just a minute. That's fucking genius. Oh, yes. So war stories from comedy when we've died on our ass&nbsp; There you go. And I mean, if you're gonna make a mistake but then Love in an Elevator comes out of it, I'd say, Let's keep it. Let's do that. So now we're gonna move away from your tree to talk about alchemy and gold now and if I may, you're giving me that in bucket loads. Anyway, there lots of gems of gold within there but when you are truly at purpose and in flow. Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue, what is the alchemy and the gold that you like to bring? I think it really is, and I might have mentioned this at the top. But I really do think there's so much power in teaching people empathy and communication skills and that you can change your mindset. I saw a quote that said, Change your mindset, change your life. And I really do think when I'm in the zone of being able to be in that present moment of being able to understand , Oh this is what someone's being challenged with right now and being either being able to unlock their potential by they come up with the answer on their own &nbsp;through coaching techniques<br> which I think is the coolest. So I want to fix anybody. It's more me helping someone find the road, or it's giving those tools in a high level way, whether that's in a classroom or to our clients. To me, giving the gift of empathy, mindset and great communication skills is my gold. I love that it gets into the lovely territory of empowering them through the conduct of their own inner genius to get where they know deep down they need to get to. You just gotta nudge it along in that direction. Maybe that's why I love Wonder Woman so much is she really was the symbol of she had the most she was the most powerful superhero, but her brand was really about love and goodwill. And that's a big reason that gold for me was something when I dressed up like her is a little girl. I wanted to be like her, and it's cool. I get to do that every day. Lovely. And we're coming beautifully to a point now where I'm going to award you with a cake. Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. It could be a cake of choice. And then there's a cherry to be put upon the cake, where it's the legacy of the conversation you'd like to leave us with. Open to interpretation is a metaphor. It could be the best piece of advice your grandfather or whoever else has ever given you. It could be a favorite leadership quote, or it could even be you talked about your niece and the fact you're sort of mentoring her at the moment. It could be. What advice would you give to a younger version of yourself? You know, you could go where you like, but what's the cherry on the cake you'd like to place? Well, I have and I'm showing this to you, but I'm going to read it. But it is a framed letter that my grandfather wrote to me and he wrote this to me on the day I graduated college. Which was yesterday. Just kidding. No, this is years ago, but he wrote me this letter and I think that the advice in here is definitely part of my brand but could be useful to anyone. So this letter goes, My dearest Jennifer and I might get emotional when I read this Grimesy. So let's warn the readers I might get emotional. So come on the train of being uncomfortable in emotion. But my dearest Jennifer today you graduate from college. I remember October 14th, 1977. The little girl lives in my memory. Always a part of the woman I see. You are my reminder that life is a precious gift. Life's joy is to love waste not a moment. Pursue your dreams. Trying offers hope of succeeding, not trying guarantees failure. Forget the unhappiness of yesterday live and love today prepare for tomorrow's successes and never give up. And remember always. You are loved unconditionally, Papa. Yeah, Pwefect and beautiful. And I just wanted to leave that silence hanging there. <br> And can I say what an immense privilege it's been talking to you. Jennifer Ryan, Peery. Logue, Where can we find out more about you if we want to on the Internet because we didn't talk about Salt Cracker Crazies and so where could we go to know more about you? Okay, so for Working Voices, if you go to our lovely Working Voices website, there's a lovely bio of me and Jennifer Logue, Director of the Americas. I am on LinkedIn as Jennifer Logue as well. I'm also for if you want to go to the website of www.ourbarnyc.com You can get all information about OUR BAR and where to follow us. And we also have live streams of our shows. And also we have a Salt Cracker Crazies website as well. www.saltcrackercrazies.com <br> I play a character in my band called Liquory SliptSo so everybody should check out why that is Maybe maybe not Google that who knows, but maybe do Google that. Not maybe our professional clients, but yes. So<br> ladies and gentlemen<br><br> you have been listening to Jennifer Ryan Peery Logue, Queen of the Americas, Queen on Game of Thrones and just all around wonderful, awesome human being and women's leadership. aficionado extraordinaire. Ladies and gentlemen and good night. Thank you, Grimesey.

Intro
Meeting Jennifer
The Clearing
Shaking the Tree
The Comedian's Anthem & How To Bomb/Die On Your Arse!
Dare to Suck: The Story of Aerosmith's Creative Process!
Alchemy and Gold
Cherry on the Cake
Outro